{"id":2327,"date":"2026-03-04T00:17:03","date_gmt":"2026-03-04T04:17:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/onlylove.art\/?p=2327"},"modified":"2026-03-08T18:08:17","modified_gmt":"2026-03-08T22:08:17","slug":"discovering-yourself-through-music-with-paul-hansen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/onlylove.art\/ja\/archives\/2327","title":{"rendered":"Making a Life, Not a Career: Listening for the Life That Wants to Grow with Paul Hansen"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>by&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/onlylove.art\/archives\/author\/aine-fujioka\">Aine Fujioka<\/a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;Feb 26, 2026&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/onlylove.art\/music\">Music<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, Paul Hansen. He is the person who inspired me to explore this theme I call <strong>Art of Life<\/strong>. When we last talked on Zoom, he said something that stayed with me: artists have to find their own way to live because no two lives unfold the same way. While searching for my own next step, I wondered if I could learn something by asking my friends how they made their life decisions\u2014how they shaped a way of living that felt true to them. In this interview, Paul repeated that the essence of life is a long chain of decisions made based on one&#8217;s own aesthetic sense, and that is what it means to be an artist.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to my close friend Todd Marston \u2014 whom I interviewed in my first article \u2014 Paul is \u201can endless fountain of enthusiasm for life.\u201d He founded the beloved Boston indie band <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thegrownupnoise.com\/\">The Grownup Noise<\/a><\/strong>. Their melodies carry you somewhere else \u2014 sometimes to a dreamlike, parallel world. We played together for years and toured across the U.S. Whenever Paul brought a new song, it always felt familiar to me, as if I already knew where the music wanted to go. He writes with deep care and a kind of quiet observation. He watches where a song wants to grow, instead of forcing it. By the time the band hears it, the music already flows naturally.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In 2024, after nearly a decade apart, I returned to Boston and played a house concert with them. The original members\u2014 Katie Franich on cello and Adam Sankowski on bass \u2014 also came back after their own long breaks. They\u2019re rehearsing regularly again, playing shows, and even working on a new album. I felt a mix of jealousy and inspiration watching them reconnect so effortlessly. Their reunion reminded me that leaving a city or a band doesn\u2019t close a door forever; music has its own timing. When I played with them again, I was surprised by how immediately I felt at home \u2014 even with the new songs. The music evoked memories and emotions in me and overwhelmed me. That band holds a special place in my life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"The Grownup Noise - &quot;Carnival&quot; (PopMatters Premiere)\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/dtxoiyjbnZM?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Paul didn\u2019t start writing or singing early compared to many musicians. Both of us now encourage young players to start writing and creating their own projects as soon as possible. You don&#8217;t study music just to play your instrument well\u2014you study it to express something. Technique is only a tool; the point is what you do with it. Creating helps you observe, understand, and express yourself more vividly. And by \u201ccreating,\u201d I don\u2019t only mean writing songs or making art. Creating means shaping your life according to your own aesthetic. Being honest with yourself \u2014 about what you like and what feels true \u2014 is how you grow.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Paul and I both went to Berklee, but when we were students, neither of us had a clear vision for our lives as musicians. Or maybe we had visions, but they weren\u2019t ours \u2014 they were borrowed. Now we understand that our confused paths were exactly what we needed to become the artists we are. Still, sometimes we wonder: would life have been a little easier if we&#8217;d understood earlier what we really wanted?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I feel like it&#8217;s not the universe being unfair to us, but understanding our story. It&#8217;s amazing that people do have a vision when they&#8217;re really young about their own music and about the way things can be. But for us, we had to do all these things and absorb and live to be the artists we are now.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>When I first arrived at Berklee, everything knocked me down. Everyone was younger. Everyone was better. Many had grown up with music, with musician parents, playing incredible things by age nine. But I\u2019ve learned that none of that determines whether someone becomes an artist. What matters is simply that something inside you wants to come out. That act of creating \u2014 of making something from nothing \u2014 is the real joy of life. I sometimes think humanity would be better off if more people were encouraged to create. Art and music can feel like a safe kind of religion \u2014 a beautiful place to focus the human mind. \u2014 Paul Hansen<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>As a parent and teacher, Paul worries about what young people face today. With the internet and social media, they have access to endless information, which can be helpful \u2014 but also endless comparison. If they\u2019re not careful, they can lose confidence before they even begin. It\u2019s easy to feel discouraged when you see someone your age \u2014 or younger \u2014 playing at an unbelievable level. But is that the point? Being \u201cgood\u201d? Technique matters because it brings more joy to your playing, but the reason we make music is simple: because it\u2019s fun. Creating and learning take time. Beginners shouldn\u2019t expect mastery immediately. The struggle, the confusion, the tiny improvements \u2014 that\u2019s the fun part. You don\u2019t need to be skilled to call yourself a musician. Music is just another way to enjoy life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A musician\u2019s life can take many shapes. Teaching is a steady path for many. I worked as an accompanist at Berklee, which was steady and informative. Musicians play weddings, theatre shows, cover bands, jazz gigs, original music \u2014 anything. Some tour with big names. Some pour everything into their own projects. The dream of making a living from your own music is beautiful, but it can be tough.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When I began at Berklee, I thought touring with a big artist was the only goal. Paul always wanted to write and sing his own songs. After years of playing as a side musician and teaching at a high school, he switched to private teaching, which gave him more freedom to gig and work on his own band. I, on the other hand, had only one path in mind: play music full time. So I did. Church gigs, weddings, clubs, Berklee accompanist jobs. Then I moved to NYC and started again from zero.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" src=\"https:\/\/onlylove.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/33407b5a12c4bc8b11ce1da373050391-1920x1280.jpg\" alt=\"The Grownup Noise by @CydScottPhoto\" class=\"wp-image-2330\" srcset=\"https:\/\/onlylove.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/33407b5a12c4bc8b11ce1da373050391-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/onlylove.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/33407b5a12c4bc8b11ce1da373050391-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/onlylove.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/33407b5a12c4bc8b11ce1da373050391-770x513.jpg 770w, https:\/\/onlylove.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/33407b5a12c4bc8b11ce1da373050391-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/onlylove.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/33407b5a12c4bc8b11ce1da373050391-360x240.jpg 360w, https:\/\/onlylove.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/33407b5a12c4bc8b11ce1da373050391-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/onlylove.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/33407b5a12c4bc8b11ce1da373050391-1155x770.jpg 1155w, https:\/\/onlylove.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/33407b5a12c4bc8b11ce1da373050391-370x247.jpg 370w, https:\/\/onlylove.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/33407b5a12c4bc8b11ce1da373050391-293x195.jpg 293w, https:\/\/onlylove.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/33407b5a12c4bc8b11ce1da373050391-1400x933.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/onlylove.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/33407b5a12c4bc8b11ce1da373050391-120x80.jpg 120w, https:\/\/onlylove.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/33407b5a12c4bc8b11ce1da373050391-240x160.jpg 240w, https:\/\/onlylove.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/33407b5a12c4bc8b11ce1da373050391-390x260.jpg 390w, https:\/\/onlylove.art\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/33407b5a12c4bc8b11ce1da373050391.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>In New York, I worked a full-time non-music job during the day while slowly entering the music scene. Eventually I became a house drummer at NYC&#8217;s beloved blues venue. Life there was a struggle, especially as a foreigner, but I was young and passionate and loved it. After a while, though, I felt satisfied but not fulfilled \u2014 and I moved to Berlin. New country, new culture, new language. Another restart. I went to jam sessions, took every gig, paid or unpaid. Music kept me sane. At first, I felt like I was living inside an invisible glass box, unable to see the scene clearly or even know where to go. Berlin didn\u2019t have much music info online at the time, so I asked people constantly. Eventually, slowly, I entered the blues scene and made enough to live.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Then the pandemic hit. Suddenly, we had to perform alone or online, and I realized I had nothing of my own to share. I had spent years playing drums to someone else\u2019s music. For the first time, I stopped, questioned everything, and asked myself what I really wanted. The answer came: I wanted to play pop music with women my age. Almost immediately, I got a recording gig with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/charlottebrandimusic\">Charlotte Brandi<\/a>, who wanted her entire project to be made by women. That experience changed everything \u2014 it showed me how powerful and comfortable it feels to work with people who share your perspective. More opportunities followed. I also had countless conversations with myself, and many strange ideas. Finally, I started my own project. I began writing again. It was hard and messy and exciting. And it felt like, at least for me, that was when my life started.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Paul talked about similar moments in his own life \u2014 times when he felt like he &#8220;woke up&#8221; creatively. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Writing your own work gives you access to a private happiness, a space you can always return to, even in sadness. Like David Lynch says, it\u2019s a way of swimming in the vast unconscious, which is ultimately positive.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Now, in a time when AI takes over much of the creative process, I think it\u2019s important to remember something: <strong>creation is for your own pleasure<\/strong>. No one can take that away from you. But at the same time, no one has the time or energy to love your art the way you do. So why make it for others? Enjoy the process. Trust your taste. Let go of perfection\u2014people today crave honesty, mistakes, and the realness of work in progress. I even question what it means to be a \u201cprofessional artist\u201d now.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When I decided to make an <a href=\"https:\/\/aine.bandcamp.com\/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMjU2MjgxMDQwNTU4AAGn3a0ZDLJI9JCAoMyvxdQdi44IYMwG6BV4-_lyX5uoQv1WFnGSxvNmALdpJvo_aem_KboF0VkPMm3EJBnN_is-8g\">EP<\/a>, I allowed myself to become a front singer for the first time. That challenge itself became part of my art. I performed solo \u2014 singing and playing keys \u2014 sometimes in front of strangers, sometimes in front of friends. I traveled and performed in NYC, Boston, Berlin, Tokyo, Osaka, and other cities.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"special at Grapefruit Moon in 2025\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/w1Euv0palNM?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Paul once asked me what felt better: playing solo or playing with a band I quickly formed to express my musical vision. There\u2019s no real comparison. Each setting teaches me something different. Music, for me, is about connecting with others, not recreating a perfect version of a recording or my vision. But performing my own music is demanding. I sing, play drums, loop them, use effects \u2014 everything live. Maybe it\u2019s time to let go of doing everything myself. Organizing shows, booking musicians, running the night, performing \u2014 it\u2019s a lot. Playing with others lifts some of the weight, as long as I choose people whose musical sense and personalities align with mine. Maybe someday I\u2019ll experiment with a smaller setup or even tracks, while still keeping the live energy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For Paul, things are different. The Grownup Noise played together for so long \u2014 rehearsing regularly, gigging often, and simply hanging out. These friendships became part of his music itself. Their families were deeply involved in our tours, too. It felt like a family reunion each time. Now that the original members are back together, the hang alone is meaningful to him. He told me he\u2019d choose to play solo if he couldn\u2019t play with these specific people anymore. His life and his music are intertwined.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Astronomy as Therapy - The Grownup Noise\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/w6ytkBYaIU4?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Making a living from art, though, is another conversation entirely. In a world where anyone can create with AI, commercial art may be taken over easily. Artists will need to understand how to use AI as a tool \u2014 not a competitor \u2014 and also learn business skills, self-care, and financial sustainability. I hope music schools now require classes in music business, mental and physical health, and personal finance alongside creative training. If life is an artist\u2019s creation, we must learn how to shape it well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If I could share one piece of advice, it would be: know yourself before adopting someone else\u2019s goals. I gave myself no options except being a full-time performing musician. I love my boldness, but I didn\u2019t plan much, and so I had to learn everything the hard way. Visa restrictions limited the kinds of jobs I could take. To stay in the U.S., I had one year to prove I was an \u201cexceptionally talented\u201d musician. I was desperate to play more gigs but also afraid to step into the scene.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Music is powerful. It can heal and empower people. Musicians need to acknowledge that. We need to feel confident embodying that power. What we do matters \u2014 not just for us, but for everyone. In an era where AI can do almost everything perfectly, humans still crave the feeling of being human. Artists provide that. But to do that, we have to take care of our mental and physical health, our finances, and our community. If we live in survival mode, how can we share healing energy with an audience?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I want to support musicians in building happy, sustainable lives and making our industry a better place. I hope this interview series helps readers see how many different paths a musician\u2019s life can take \u2014 and that each path can be valid, beautiful, and true.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Paul Hansen is the person who inspired me to explore this theme I call Art of Life. When we last talked on Zoom, he said something that stayed with me: artists have to find their own way to live because no two lives unfold the same way. 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